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Showing posts with label Pool Heater. Show all posts

26 March, 2017

Finally! A Heater For the Pool

You know there's times when it's just too cold to get into your pool. I'm talking wintertime, folks. Frigid temperatures, like when the pool goes down below 80℉, like down to the mid-seventies.

Such was our case. A pool heater seemed like a mighty fine idea. One problem, though, was that I didn't want to spend a fortune on a heater, nor did I want to make it any more complex that necessary.

I did quite a bit of research over the past three years or so. Not continuously, but every now and then. Kind of a casual, laid-back sort of research. Anyway, it seems that most of the heating systems out there, at least for in-ground pools, want several things.

One, spend lots of money. Two, use your main pump so you can move massive amounts of water. Three, it needs to be complex. Adding a system to the pool after it's up and running is hard.

Those three caused me pause. That's why research went on for so long. Well, one of the reasons anyway.

I began to think about the cost. Was there a way that I could install a pool heater without breaking the bank, and that wasn't overly complex and didn't require me to modify the existing plumbing unnecessarily?

I noticed in my research, that there was a wide difference in heater system prices for above-ground pools, compared to in-ground systems.

Little by little, I began to wonder why I couldn't adapt elements of an above-ground pool to my in-ground pool. I realized that there was no reason I couldn't do just that. The pool doesn't know if it's above-ground or not.

I was taken with the idea of using an above-ground heater, especially the long strip types, with narrow little tubes for the water to run through. I had the roof space available, so why not?

I had thought of using large vinyl tubing to heat the water, but putting it into coils, for some reason, seemed like a lot of work to me. I have a roll of about 200-feet of 3/4" black tubing, so that wasn't the problem. For some reason, I just couldn't get motivated to do my heater that way.

The more I thought about the issue, the more the strip appealed to me. The one that captivated my attention was twenty foot long by about two or three feet, and it only cost around $150.00 US.

Some time ago, David Wright and I went together on an order for a solar system. This consisted of a two-foot by four-foot solar panel, metal support frame, to attach it to a pole, and a small, low-volume 12-V d.c. pump. That was a good setup to order. The boxes containing the ordered bits sat in my workshop for several months.

The other thing I had done to get ready was a bit of pool modification. I didn't do it, but I had asked our contractor, Mario, to include two ports in the pool for a heater system, They did just that and ran it to the pump house. That was all. You can see in the photo below, the little holes I'm talking about.
Little Holes

Not those on the left. That's some troubleshooting that was going on to track down an internal leak connected with the waterfall. The ones I'm talking about are on the right side just left of the black power panel box. See those two little holes? That's it. That was the extent of the prebuilt for the heater.

So, when I finally did get serious about the pool heater, I bit the bullet and ordered a twenty-foot heater strip. I was concerned because a couple of the reviews of it had stated that the 'non-standard' fittings created major problems, and the people couldn't understand why they used such oddball fittings. I figured that I could cobble something together that would work. Half of what we work on down here is cobbled together.

Shift forward a couple of weeks and Easy Shipping to Belize shows up at our gate with the rolled-up heater and some other stuff. Wow. Time to get serious. Especially since I had the help of Denis Patterson, our neighbor from across the street.

Denis and Vivien, his wife, were staying in our Mennonite house since their house was rented long-term and they didn't want to disturb their tenants. Denis and Vivien are from Alberta, Canada, and are nice people (aren't all Canadians?).
The Repair Shop

Denis and I took a break from the project to take care of a project of Denis'. His on-demand heater at his house had stopped working. We needed to get it running in short order so his tenants didn't rebel.

It may not look like it, but this is the best TV, stereo, and water heater repair place in town. When Denis first took his heater there, they said, "No. We don't fix them things no more." Ok. So, Denis and I went on an adventure to find who could.

We tried Nairobi Rancharan's place. Nope, He doesn't do heaters, only refrigerators and auto A/C units. I've taken my Isuzu there. He thought there was a guy down the street by a vacant lot, and to the left, who did that. On we went.

Turns out after a couple wrong turns, that you had to go through the vacant lot to find this guy. Nope. This heater has electronics in it. He only repairs the kind with a pilot light. He thought there was another shop down by the little park near Memo's Auto Repair (who I've never used). Memo's looks more like a bar than an auto shop, but what do I know? A couple of guys sitting on a bench out front thought that this guy was a little past the park and to the left.

Turns out he was. He was upset that we got there early. He didn't open till 9:00 AM. But, to our benefit, (he was talking to us through his bedroom window), he put on some shorts and came out to talk with us. From the way he talked, he seemed more educated than some. He repaired all sorts of electronics and computers, but not heaters. He even had a website (E & L Electronics) and has a small e-store for parts. Who knew?

When he turned us down, we were at a loss. Denis decided to go back to the first place, with hat in hand and beg them to look at it. So, that's what we did.
The TV Technician
Back at the shop, we went inside to find the TV technician busy modifying his hoodie to hold some small speakers. I can't imagine wearing a hoodie in this environment, but whatever. He hollered for the water heater technician, "Hey, Water Heater!" The water heater technician just happened to be coming through the door with a cup of coffee. "Yup, we can fix it," he said.

Now, keep in mind, this was the same guy who, the day before, had told Denis, that they no longer worked on heaters. It was like that conversation had never occurred.
Here's the Stereo Lab
Just before we left, I snapped a shot of the Stereo technician's workspace or lab. Ain't it wonderful?

The great end of the story is that the water heater guy called Denis the very next day and told him the heater was ready to go. Turns out the Solenoid had gone bad. Miracles do happen.


Now, on with the main story. Denis and I went up to Lano's Hardware and picked up several lengths of PVC tubing, fittings, glue, brackets and all that sort of stuff. I had also brought along one of the key fittings from the heater, expecting to spend some quality time figuring out how to cobble together something that would join the heater to my ½" PVC tubing.

I showed Vien (Mr. Lan's nephew, who runs the sales counter at the store) the fitting. He took one look at it after I briefly described what I wanted to do, and said, "I know what will work," and quickly disappeared into the back of the store. He returned with two fittings. One, a coupling, slid snugly over the fitting of the heater, and the other, a ¾" to ½" reducer. That was it. A perfect solution. A little epoxy, to ensure that it doesn't separate and we'd be good to go.

I had expected to spend at least an hour rummaging around trying to find something that would solve our problem. Sometimes, things just work out right, you know? Denis and I took our purchases and headed back to Casa Winjama and our project.
Where the Heater is Going
Here's the area of the roof where I thought of placing the heater. It's on the order of being 30-feet long so there should be no problem placing the heater there.





Proposed Track for the Tubing
I thought that with the heater strip laid out on the roof, that I'd be able to run the tubing over the roof parapet and along the top of the frame for the pool shade enclosure, over to the pump house and in through a hole somewhere to the inside of the pump house.




Over the parapet
In fact, the parapet is where we started the tubing work. You can see we're getting it assembled in good fashion. We have three tubes, one for incoming cold water, one for outgoing hot water, and one to hold the wires from the solar panel to the pump motor that we're locating in the pump house.



Running Down the Roof
The PVC tubing is now running down the length of the roof of the pool enclosure. Good progress.






The Heater Laid Down
Here's the heater in it's position on the roof. It works fine right there. I might add a framework to support the heater and the solar panel at the proper 15° for our latitude, but I'm not sure that it's really going to be necessary.




Looking the Other Direction
You can see we also have the solar panel more or less in place. Nothing is crowded and everything is in place with plenty of unimpeded sunlight for most of the day.

The solar panel is in shade in the morning till about 8:00 AM. So, the pump doesn't start till then, but that delay allows the water remaining in the tubes to heat up so that when the pump does start, it's moving hot water to the pool.
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Here you can see everything in more or less it's final places. You can also see the join between the PVC tubing and the heater fitting. There's also a union fitting on each leg to make separation of the heater from the PVC tubing easier, because when the pool warms up enough that the heater is no longer needed, it will be rolled up and both it and the solar panel will be lowered off the roof and put in storage in the pool utility room till the succeeding winter when it's needed again.
The Pump In Place
This is a view inside the pump house again. It's showing the pump on a shelf I installed, all hooked up. The black line has the wires coming from the solar panel through the roof and through the power panel to the motor.




Pump Detail

There's also a controller circuit in the little black box,since removed. It didn't work right and proved to not be necessary. The tube sticking up from the pump with a blue-handled valve on it, allows us, as needed, to prime the pump (brings to mind an old Kingston Trio song - Desert Pete). We even have a funnel on hand just for that purpose.

I also installed a switch (the old-school looking round thing), in case we need to shut the pump off during the day. I also will be adding a 15-amp fuse to protect the pump motor, just in case.

Final words on the project. Yesterday was its first full day of work. For a couple of weeks now, the pool temperature has been hovering around 79℉, barely able to make it 80℉ during the day. Well, yesterday, the temp was up to 81℉. Not bad for one day's work. We think it will take two to three days to get the temp from 79℉ all the way up to 84℉. Perfect till summer kicks in.

Pardon me. I've got my trunks on, a cold beer, and I'm headed to the warm pool. life is grand!

11 February, 2017

In the Pool Again

It's still cool, even brisk, getting into the pool. But after you freeze the nerve endings, it seems to be quite comfortable.

The hardest part of getting in the pool at this time of year is, as you might expect, getting in. Yesterday, the temperature in the pool made it up to a bit more than 80° (f).

Denis and I Breaking It In
You might say, what' to complain about? And, you'd be right. We ain't complaining, we're enjoying. But keep in mind, we're used to daytime temps being in the low nineties, even in winter, so to get into the pool, is a breath-taking experience.

After you've been in for a minute or so, it becomes a very comfortable experience.

Construction work for the pool is all done. That doesn't mean that all 'work' is done. For example, I still have to install the solar heating system. I already have the pump and the solar panel for that. Just yesterday I ordered the heating collector - a plastic panel, 2' x 20', that is filled with little tubes, that heat the water as it passes through them.

It's been tempting to over-engineer the heater bit. Everyone wants to sell you a heating system that will make hot water. I don't want to make hot water. I just want it to be warm. At the most, I want the water to go up eight degrees. Eighty-four degrees is about optimum for us. that's quite comfortable.

Thanks to Denis, who found a website that talked about determining BTU's (British Thermal Units), which in turn, led to me finding a website that gave a good method of determining what size heating system we need. I'm not saying this is absolutely the most correct way to do things, but it is the most logical-seeming to me, and that's what I'm going by. And, it's relatively cheap and easy to do to.

Here's the nitty gritty on what we found.

WARNING!

Serious Mathematics Ahead. Proceed at your own risk.


First, you have to know (or calculate) how many gallons of water your pool contains.

We did that. It's 9,000 gallons.

Then you have to determine how long it takes to increase your pool water temperature by 1° (f).

To do that, multiply the total gallons of water in the pool by 8.3 (One gallon of water weighs 8.3 pounds). This will give you the total weight of the water in your pool.
(9,000 gals. x 8.3 lbs = 74,700 lbs)

Then, divide the total weight of the pool water by your heater's or collector's BTU rating. Finding the BTU for some of these heating systems can be a challenge. I stumbled on one that was similar in size to the collector I was thinking about buying. It was rated at 40,000 BTU. That seemed reasonable, so I used that as my BTU rating figure (hey, it's not an exact science here. We're talking ballpark guestimation all the way around). Call it an experiment.
(74,700 lbs. / 40,000 BTU = 1.87 hours)

Now, determine the total time required to increase the pool water temperature the desired amount.

I used 76° (f) as my current water temp (which seems that ours is most of the time during the winter here, as long as we keep the pool covered at night and when we're not using it).

I want to raise that temp to 84° (f) for a total of eight degrees.
Multiply eight degrees by the time it takes to raise the temperature 1 degree (f)
(8 degrees x 1.87 hours = 14.96 hours)

So, the best minds in the business (Denis and me) think this is acceptable. Roughly 15 hours of heating to get the pool up to the 84° (f) threshold. Since we really didn't get into the pool until it was 79° (f), we should be able to shorten the time. But we really don't care. It can take two or three days to heat up. That's fine. Again, we're not creating hot water for household use, just warming the pool.

Once I get the solar panel and the pump installed, it's simply a matter of waiting till the collector arrives, and hooking it up. Then we can begin keeping track of pool temps and how fast/slow things heat up. Till then, it's all guesswork, which is our forte anyway. I'll let you know how things progress.

We'll probably get it hooked up in time to shut it down for the summer season anyway. But, if that's the case, we'll be ready for the cooling days of next fall and winter.

Serious Math Warning Terminated. Relax and have a beer

 I don't remember if these shots were taken before or after the math workout. In either case, we have safety Belikins in hand.

Very Comfortable Dry Run
 The pool is functioning superbly. The waterfall (the stone area in the background) also works great. We don't have it turned on in these photos for some unknown reason.








Even Maggie Gets In the Act
Thanks to Vivien for taking these photos for us. I wanted to show folks that, yes, the pool is back functioning. She did a nice job of it too.

Their little dog, Maggie even helped.

23 February, 2016

Getting Ready to Move In

Here we are after construction and we still haven't moved in. We do have a good reason. We haven't yet sealed the grout.

I've managed to find a one-quart container of grout sealer in Corozal. Denis was kind enough to provide me most of a container he had bought to do their backsplash. Lano's says they will be getting a shipment of a couple of cases this Friday. I'm going to try to score four or five containers. Too bad you can't buy it by the gallon. We'd be in fat city if that were the case.

The other issue with that is that no one in town is carrying foam paint brushes. Sara and Jeff will be returning Thursday from Florida. They've got two bundles of foam brushes for us. Once we get everything in hand, we'll be ready to go.

In the meantime, we don't really want to move anything in that we'll just have to move again while we seal the grout. So, we haven't done much in that regard. Not to say that nothing has been going on. It has.

For one, I re-upholstered the bottom of the corner piece of our sectional. It took me a couple of tries. Dianna reminded me that I should do it the way you would stretch canvas on a frame for a painting. Ok. Only I had never done that. But, following that idea, I did it and the results came out much better than I could otherwise have hoped for. My new electric staple gun works just fine. Especially once I found out how to load the staples in it and quit trying to use the quarter-inch staples for upholstery. Half-inch staples definitely work better.
Reupholstered Sectional Corner Bottom 23 9.41
Dianna spent part of the morning removing old knobs off the tower shelf and drawers that we went ahead and moved down to the bathroom in the new place. That was done with Denis' assistance. He helped me carry the unit down to the new place. After a bit of cleaning, Dianna's been fitting nice glass knobs in place.
Adding New Glass Knobs to Tower 23 9.54
I also took advantage of another new tool that showed up thanks to Easy Shipping to Belize, LLC, my new Porter-Cable hammer drill. It works like a charm. We've got towel bars, towel rings, a toilet paper holder and hooks up and in place all over the bathroom.
Hooks and Towel Bars and TP Holder 23 9.55
Across from the tower, is another towel bar and hook.
More Hooks and Towel Bars 23 9.55
And a towel bar and towel ring beside the vanity.
Towel Bars and Towel Rings 23 9.55
I scored a nice looking rubber welcome mat at Lano's Supply the other day. It's being put to good use. All except for the dogs and cats don't appreciate what it should be used for.
Our New Welcome Mat 23 9.57
Everything getting new and pretty, inspired me to clean up my workshop. Here you can see the result. First time in months that I've been able to see the work surface of the counter.
Dave's Workshop Neat and Clean 23 10.30
I spent some time after the construction was officially over, to create a DVD of the 1,200 or so photos I took during the construction. I was going to play it for Dianna. Well, as so often happens down here, the damned player rebelled and would have no part of playing. Oh sure, it spun the DVD that we had left inside it, but the transport drive to open and close the door was completely inoperative.

I took the player to my alternate workshop, my office desk, and proceeded to dismantle the thing to see if I might be able to fix it. Better that than shelling out mo' money to Courts for a new player. It took a short time, and I found the problem. I had gone on the Intertubes first with a description of my problem and the answers that came back gave me a good idea of what the problem most likely would be.

Sure enough, it was a broken drive belt. A little one-and-a-quarter inch diameter square-shaped drive belt. According to the 'experts' on the 'tubes, I could substitute a rubber o-ring and that would work just fine. I found one the right diameter but too thick for the space available in the player.

So, I looked on the Intertubes further, to see if I could find a supplier. It actually took me a couple of days, but I found a very helpful site in Kalamazoo, Michigan, Ken's Electronics (http://www.kenselectronics.com). I originally ordered a replacement belt online from their shop. But I did this at 2:30 AM, so naturally, I screwed it up. I had to call them (using Skype, of course) around 9:00 AM, and talked to Ken himself. He was very pleasant and helpful.

It was a tad expensive (a smidge less than $14.00 US including shipping) for a tiny piece of rubber, but still in all, much cheaper than buying a new DVD player. Now all I have to do is actually get the thing and get it installed.
Broken Square Drive Belt for DVD Player 23 7.09
Then, I'll be able to ply the construction DVD for Dianna and we can finally finish watching that spy flick we couldn't stay awake for. Whatever it was.

I thought it would be good to begin moving what we could that won't impact the grout sealing activities. So, that pretty much limits things to the pantry/utility room beside the kitchen. In that regard, the first thing that came to mind was the need to move the freezer down to the new house. It's going to live in the pantry/utility room.

Denis, helped me again. He and I carried it (empty, of course) from the downstairs of the Mennonite house, down to the pool deck, where we let it sit for a few minutes in direct sunlight with the door open. It needed defrosting big time.

We figured out how to operate the drain, and I poured a couple of pans of water over the inner walls, and gave it a good wipe-down. After that, we moved it into the pantry, plugged it in, and reloaded all the contents that we had stored in a couple of coolers and bins. It's happy as a clam now. And will be much easier for us to use. No more traipsing up and down stairs to fetch a pound of 'grind meat' or  'beef meat' as they call it here.
Chest Freezer in it's New Home 23 7.12
A note, though. As you can see with the open door, I'm using one plastic bin to corral the meat in the freezer. I was using two, but it shattered when I took it out of the freezer. This remaining one is right behind the first as well. I've got to find a bin that will do the job without becoming brittle and breaking on the job. Some sort of metal bin or something. Back to the Intertubes.
Chest Freezer Innards 23 7.13

I had mentioned my neat and tidy workshop. Past history again. This morning I went over to David and Elizabeth's place to pick up my parts for a solar-powered pool heater.
Solar Heater Boxes in Workshop
With boxes all over, the workshop once again looks suspiciously like it did before I cleaned it up. Well, at least I got a picture when it was all neat and tidy. It'll only get worse for a bit. The box to the right is chock full of small bits and pieces. The big one to the left is a solar panel - about two or three times the size I thought it would be, and the middle box, is a unassembled framework to hold the solar panel.